To hear the ES VS SG whinge, just keep your ears open whenever there's a Perth con going for NatCon. Or when the Ditmars are up. Or in general when fan politics is brought up, especially in an historical context. It's not all old farts, some of it are newer folks just aping what they've heard with no context.
Typically I can't think of names, but I don't know how many times, right up until the last few years, that I had to wade in from time to time about the old chestnut that Melbourne 'deliberately ran a con at Easter when Perth had the Natcon,' when the con that ran was a Goodies convention. The conrunners themselves came from Adelaide, chose to run it in Melbourne, and were helped by local fans. It wasn't a science fiction con. And it's typically one of the bits of proof behind "ES hates us."
But yes, fans on both sides of our wide brown land are whingers, and always looking for someone else to blame for their woes. Is it too much to ask that people just run cons for their fellow fans? Rather than to empire-build, stop the other guy from getting it, or our of some misplaced regional honour?
And is it me, or is it getting harder to run cross-promotion between cons these days? No-one seems to have the knack.
RE: The succession - from the day I first heard about this, I wish it had happened. I can't see too many ways in which WA would be worse off, and I think culturally people would be happier.
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Typically I can't think of names, but I don't know how many times, right up until the last few years, that I had to wade in from time to time about the old chestnut that Melbourne 'deliberately ran a con at Easter when Perth had the Natcon,' when the con that ran was a Goodies convention. The conrunners themselves came from Adelaide, chose to run it in Melbourne, and were helped by local fans. It wasn't a science fiction con. And it's typically one of the bits of proof behind "ES hates us."
But yes, fans on both sides of our wide brown land are whingers, and always looking for someone else to blame for their woes. Is it too much to ask that people just run cons for their fellow fans? Rather than to empire-build, stop the other guy from getting it, or our of some misplaced regional honour?
And is it me, or is it getting harder to run cross-promotion between cons these days? No-one seems to have the knack.
RE: The succession - from the day I first heard about this, I wish it had happened. I can't see too many ways in which WA would be worse off, and I think culturally people would be happier.