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Danny's Photoshoot Meme
Write to me if you'd like to know how I would like to photograph you. Don't tell me how you'd like to be photographed, it's my job to come up with something for you.
All your comments will be screened, so people will only see my replies to you. I will unscreen your original request only if you ask me to after I have replied.
Disclaimer time - I may need you to point me towards a recent photo of yourself since my memory for people's faces/bodies is often crap. Be warned, you may find the way I'd like to photograph you ridiculous, insulting, boring, obvious, exploitative, confronting, confusing, completely off the mark of how you see yourself, or completely uncreative. Worse still, I may not be able to think of anything for you. If I can't think of anything for you though, it probably means I just need to chat with you more, to spark some ideas.
Either that you or have no discernable personality.
Yes, I am mean. Tough it out, you bastards!
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But then I immediately had a fully formed image pop into my head.
A bathroom mirror frosted over with condensation. The shot is from close behind you, so the back of your head is of out of focus. From your body language you're leaning heavily on the sink with both hands. The mirror has had a single hand swipe taken down through the condensation, and it's through that gap that we can see only the right side of your face, as you look up from under your brow. Only that bit of your face is in focus. Don't know if you're exhausted, pissed off, hung-over, but there's a serious 'don't fuck with me' vibe behind the look.
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I may even be game for the photoshoot.
We've vaguely discussed this on occasion since making me turn out well in photos is a challenge (at least I think so).
The userpic above is one of the few decent ones I have.
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The other would require a major set-up. You in extreem sweaty close-up, boxing gloves held close to your face, you're in the middle of a truly visious boxing bout. You're probably blurred from movement, lips drawn back in a snarl as you throw a punch, maybe a cut on your eyebrow leaking blood. This is not someone to mess with.
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I know people don't tend to take you seriously when you're angry, so I want a photo of you where those same people see it and go, "I don't want to be on the receiving end of that temper!"
If need be, I'd spend hours winding you up, talking to you only about things that make you furious, then discounting them offhand. By the end of it, I'd want you screaming red-faced into the lens. And then, get the shot just when you're glowering at me as you take a breath before you start again.
Or you dressed as Marie Antoinette. No idea where that comes from.
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You know the famous James Dean Times Square picture? I want something like that with you. But it's the balance of the other elements that's the hard part.
I want you walking along, head down, and everything close to you in the shot is of significance and relevance to your cultural identity. People, dress, images, writing. And around that little bubble of your culture, is the loud raw Western culture trying to break in.
Either that, or it works opposite, so you're in Western dress, surrounded by Western things, and around the edges of the shot is your world.
The hardest thing with this concept is to get the visual balance so it doesn't look like you're trapped (seemingly unwillingly) in a bubble of your own culture, but instead looks like you carry that heritage with you, no matter where you are, because it's a part of you, as opposed to attached to you. If that makes sense.
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Okay, so the visual I kept getting was you at Lake Ballard, or some other huge salt lake, at sunrise or sunset. Probably sunrise. And generally it was a intimate look at your face in the soft morning light, examining the shapes and lines, with the flatness of the salt lake stretching back behind you to where it meets the sky.
From there I had a bunch of other ideas. I did idly wonder about a couple of simple nudes in that same environment, maybe even posed similar to the pictures I took of myself (http://dalekboy.livejournal.com/140417.html) there. What was funny was that I'd quite forgotten that you'd commented on that post until I went back to grab the link address for this reply, so now I'm wondering if my subconscious has been mulling that over all this time :)
The other idea I had would require a huge finished picture to do it justice. Big close-up of your face, very tightly focusing on the reflection in your eye. Depending on the composition, we may only see the area just around your eye. The reflection is of the salt lake environment, so land and sky essentially, with a stargate in it. So the ring of the inactive gate reflected in your eye sits halfway between your pupil and the outer edge of your iris.
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Actually, probably inspired by your River costume at one con, I think you're another salt lake person. Moving, dancing, never still. Actually, photographed in low light on a long exposure, with with just a couple of flashes so we get a still moment in amongst the lines of blurred movement.
Another thought, though I have no idea how I'd photograph it to look good, would be you as captain of a down and dingy space freighter. Something that wheezes and grumphs along, only two steps up from being steampunk. Or maybe not captain, but the engineer, complete with grease marks on your face where you've absent mindedly scratched while working on something.
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I actually think a dancing series similar to the one mentioned above. Long flowing shapes, long exposure... I think you'd pull off some nice artistic nudes, too, but I have no idea what environment would suit. Some people I just go 'desert', or 'forest.' You... actually, solid black background with just a hint of light showing some curves but leaving everything else black... that could work.
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But even though I'm a bit vague, and think I could come up with something better, you're someone I see laughing. No idea why. There's a couple of people that just scream laughing at me. You don't scream it, but you do insist it's a good idea quite loudly.
Just a good, head thrown back, solidly laughing and enjoying life.
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Actually, I say simple and classical, but you with a cheeky grin would work.
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I have this idea of you with lots of body make-up to give you a nice earthy granite look, towering over the countryside as a giant earth-mother figure, proud and awesome. Maybe with the sun peeking over your shoulder.
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The one I'd most like to get, and the one that would be hardest to achieve because the emotion is so big and obvious, would be you laughing. So there's the moon over the countryside at night, and you slowly become aware that it's laughing.
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You're an interesting one because on one hand you've got a beautifully compassionate and expressive face, which it would be easy to work with. So naturally I'm leaning towards weird, harsh, broad looks where that's hidden or hinted at behind a facade.
And actually, you have a good body too. No idea how I'd use it, frame it, or anything, but you're one of the few guys I know with a body that lends itself to nice stylistic nude work. Or at least seems to.
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Wait, googled it. ...Nah...
Not sure what I'd do individually, but if you guys were together for the shoot, I'd be tempted to get you both in matching suits and do a Kray Brothers or Alexei Sayle "Didn't You Kill My Brother?" style shot.
Actually, I like the idea of you both together. You're such a fabulous team. A table with two laptops on it opposite each other, with each of you screaming and gesticulating wildly at stupid people on the net.
Other version, one of you is screaming away, the other is sitting quietly enjoying some post or other.
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But!
You walking along the top ridge of a rooftop, with the city or suburbs as your backdrop. Actually, the place you've been living for the last year or however long would have been perfect. You're walking the ridge and your eyeline is on the toe of the foot held high out in front of you, with a sort of thoughtful look. You're not concerned with the roof or the stuff around you, you're enjoying walking on the ridge.
You moonbathing in the Botanical Gardens. I'd want to get you, the moon and the lake in shot, so might take some doing. It's the sort of shot where photoshopping it will never work as well as getting it all in camera on a long exposure. Actually, would probably want to use a good telephoto lens and shoot from as far back as possible, just to try and get the moon filling a good portion of the sky.
You in a helmet that's a bit too big for you, and army clothes that are a bit too big for you, the wind blowing through your hair and you screaming at the world from the turrent of a tank. You wouldn't see most of the tank in the shot, but enough to know what it was you were commanding.
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Though you sneaking up behind your unsuspecting hubby in an exaggerated cartoonish manner with a feather has some appeal...
May have to ponder this some more...
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You can unscreen me. :)
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Oh God, so many ideas!
Actually, the Kray Brothers thing would be so awesome with you. But first preference, and yes, it's old and been done, but I'd love to do a whole big run of shots of you as the Tooth Fairy! Problem is, people would think we were ripping off the Tooth Fairy from Supernatural, but I don't care. We know the truth!
It'd actually be easy to get a really nice portait of you. You have a great face. But at the same time, you do extreme so very well, it's just too damned tempting to run with it. So...
Giant Scotty sitting and chatting with Godzilla over a ruined Tokyo. I have someone else this would suit also, but would work well with you.
Naked Scotty, in a tunnel somewhere, covered in blood and gore, holding his dolly out to the camera.
Actually, naked Scotty all bedraggled looking into the mirror, and behind his reflection is suited, professional looking Scott. So many possible expressions for pro-Scott - amusement, a cheer-the-hell-up look, disdain...
Oh! Perfect! Close shot of you, deadly serious, deep in thought, looking into the middle distance as you try to ignore the distractions. Around you, all different versions of yourself. Angry, amused, nervous, disappointed, delighted, etc. and all of them yammering away at you.
Now if only we had someone who had the photoshop skills... :P
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Can you point me at some photos of you to help kick me off?
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Re: Hope this helps
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But a whole sequence of these would be sweet. Big surly angel with a "Don't fuck with me," attitude and smallish wings. Arms crossed staring at the camera. Wielding a huge sword. Surrounded by demons and standing in a "Bring it on!" pose. There's so many great shots we could do, and you could so pull that off.
One of the things I love about you is also your ability to pull off the ridiculous well. So another two that spring to mind are one of you in a suit, looking surly and mean while drinking out of a tiny, very delicate, china teacup. I'd want it just being brought to your lips as you glare at the camera, with the cup dwarfed by your big hands.
The other version of that, you sitting down at a childs tea party set, pouring pretend drinks and having an absolute ball. Not sure if there would be children or toys on the other seats. Of course we'd probably have to seriously reinforce your little chair!
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One is you in army fatigues, in the middle of what is obviously a major battle, snarling and firing a machine gun or uzi. A totally "Don't fuck with me," one person versus insurmountable odds and isn't going to back down moment.
The other is in stark black and white. A long street, and for the whole length of the street, lying on the ground, are men's bodies. All big men, body-builder types, all oiled so great muscles and lines, and we can't see their faces. No idea if they're alive or dead. There's no-one else on the street except for you, and you're walking over them, on them, straight at the camera, a determined and grim expression on your face.
Part of me is trying to figure out what you'd be wearing, because it sort of feels like you should be wearing something, and part of me thinks you should be naked. I actually think naked would work best. Having see you naked, you have beautiful soft lines to your body, which would be a great counterpoint to the muscled lines of the bodies. But I can't quite shake the feeling you should be dressed, and I can't nail down what would work.
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Worst thing, at some point while lying around yesterday, I came up with one that I thought would be great, and would work. And do you think I can come up with the bastard now? Been trying to remember since you posted.
So will have to get back to you... There's something swirling around in the back of my head.
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I've got two, which could actually be related, kind of.
One is a preacher. Could be old style, but I'm actually leaning towards the Yahoo Serious preacher outfit from Reckless Kelly. Not sure of the setting, but I reckon you could pull that off.
The other is a classic highwayman style look. I think the sort of picture would be very much you standing there filling the frame, a gun in each hand. Colour would be desaturated with a tinge of blue.
Can you see how they could be related?
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Of course, it suddenly occurs to me that suggesting something like that would be a great practical joke. "Film in the camera? Why would I want film in the camera?"
Sparrow's a hard one because I'm not around her, so I haven't got much of a feel for her. That said, I have two ideas, one Sparrow based, one with you and her.
The set-up for the Sparrow one would be the key. You take a beautiful and elegantly arranged room with lovely furnishings, so nice art dotted around the place, some stylish personal effects. Then pick a spot in the room and set off a reasonably strong and firey explosive on the floor, so you have the burn lines and damage reaching out from that point.
Then it's a toss-up between Sparrow being sat at the epicentre of where the blast occurred, and getting a good black and white shot of just that - baby in the middle of the blast damage. Or exactly the same shot, but framed on either side by you and James in the foreground looking horrified at the destruction your little girl has created. Naturally for either version, the cuter and sweeter she looks, the better.
I'd call the shot "Parenthood" :)
The other one that comes to mind is you standing in a fighting pose, a knife or blade held out towards the camera in readiness to attack, and a "I'm going to fucking kill you!" expression on your face. Your other arm is holding Sparrow as she breastfeeds.
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http://pics.livejournal.com/stephbg/gallery/00005w3s
We did the "So this is your first Swancon?" panel together this year.
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Sorry for the delay, busy week.
Not much detail, and in some ways you've picked some costumes that almost suit what I've been thinking. I reckon you'd make an awesome Queen Boadicea, or a similar style of warrior queen. No great details, but I reckon going hell for leather in a chariot, and screaming like a banshee is a good starting point for the shoot.
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Ok, got a couple of ideas. Love to get you in a retro-future Jetsons style outfit and setting. Especially if we were playing with those 50s/60s stereotypes, so you're in the bizarre outfits, doing household chores with weird faux-modern equipment. Or reading a magazine while your robot does the chores.
Another would be to put you in a fairly tight battlesuit, and get you in a fighting pose. One leg stretched out behind you as you crouch down with one hand on the floor, looking towards the camera. All business and ready to go. I don't know why, but the weapon I'd like you armed with would be a futuristic staff of some description, held back behind you in your free hand.
Actually, that's one I could see your partner in as well. A gothic hitech Royal chamber, with her in an elaborate queen's garb on the ultra-modern throne in the background, with you in the above pose in the foreground - Queen's Champion.
Actually just came up with a third. Don't know the setting, but I suspect a hitech lab of some description. A series of shots that use 3D graphics after the fact to break you up and peel away parts of your skin to reveal robotic parts underneath.
Actually, could be cooler if done in an old garage somehere. Oh! Perfect! The previously mentioned engineer character with her one-step-above steampunk tech, in her dirty old overalls. You're like the classic car being rebuilt by an enthusiast.
First in the series could be your head, maybe getting an eye replaced, followed by various chunks of body and endokeletal structure which would allow us to concentrate on the engineer a bit, but still have your head there, silently commenting on what's going on with its expressions. So there could be a shot where the engineer is holding up two identical left arms and you're looking at them and frowning trying to decide between them. Or there's been a mishap and part of your unattached torso is on fire, the engineer has the fire extinguisher held ready to blast the flames, and you're looking on horrifed at the whole mess.