Been meaning to ask this question for a few weeks. Can anyone recommend any movies or TV shows with solid and clever female characters? Preferably in the lead role, but solid supporting characters are okay as well if it helps expand the range.

I know it's going to be a couple of years before MaybeZoe sees any of it, and even longer before she comprehends what she's seeing, but getting a list now will give me time to hunt down and buy them.

Prefer genre stuff, but anything that has good characters and storytelling will do. She's already going to have some great female role models in her life, but wouldn't mind having some cool stuff to show her. Plus it can't be bad for Lex, either.

From: [identity profile] dcrisp.livejournal.com


I thought Buffy was meant to be a show with a strong intelligent female role? Isn't that what Joss Wheadon is always being praised for?
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From: [identity profile] threemonkeys.livejournal.com


Gee, advising you about TV or Movies seems very much like a "here granny, hold the egg like this and then suck" scenario.

Off the top of my head (well actually, looking at the DVD shelf closest to me), Buffy, Dead Like Me, Wonderfalls, Xena, Middleman, Daria, Ab-Fab, Cold Comfort Farm, Miss Marple. Honourable mentions to Blakes 7, Farscape and Futurama too I guess.

From: [identity profile] cheshirenoir.livejournal.com


I'm gonna echo what [livejournal.com profile] threemonkeys said about grannys.

Global Frequency (If you can get hold of it) has a mostly female cast and Miranda Zero in particular is a GREAT female lead. Aleph is cool too. Pity they only ever made the pilot.

Legend of the Seeker isn't too bad. It's not perfect either, but I think some of that is the source material.

As for movies:
Amelie - It's french, with a wonderfully twisted plot and a lovely and strong lead character. What's NOT to love?
Hoodwinked - it's not only got two kickass female leads, but it also explores identity in culture for female characters in an amusing (And challenging) way.
Ghost in the Shell - Now THERE is a strong female lead.
MirrorMask - What else would you expect from Gaiman?

From: [identity profile] murasaki-1966.livejournal.com


Ponyo and My neighbour Totoro by Hayao Miyazaki. In fact, anything by Miyazaki tends to have strong female characters (if not leads, they are very strong supporting character ie Porco Russo. Kiki's delivery service is a wonderful film about finding your independence and place in the world.

This is making me sad. I really wanted a daughter.

From: [identity profile] rachelholkner.livejournal.com


For small girls you cannot go past Ghibli.
Kiki's Delivery Service and My Neighbour Totoro were perfect for A__ as they have very little conflict - she was easily upset by films/tv for a while around age 3-4.
The Cat Returns, Spirited Away and Howl's Moving Castle are current gooduns (Age 6)
It'll be quite a while though before she's ready for Princess Mononoke!

A__ is telling me to add Justice League. She is obsessed with it! She says she can't think of any others.

From: [identity profile] arcadiagt5.livejournal.com


Anime gender roles can be...problematic sometimes.

In terms of what is locally available (ie Region 4 DVD) I would look at:
Twelve Kingdoms - Definitely
Vision of Escaflowne - Definitely
Noir - Possibly
Fruits Basket - Maybe but probably not, a great show but the gender roles suck sometimes
Kino's Journey is a good choice but subtle
Witch Hunter Robin maybe
.Hack//Sign is a possibility
Le Chevalier D'Eon - haven't seen it all but definitely messes with gender roles
Vampire Princess Miyu TV and (if available) OAV

From: [identity profile] jack-ryder.livejournal.com


The Wonder Woman animated movie is pretty awesome

And I'm surprised no-one's mentioned Mulan.

From: [identity profile] tikiwanderer.livejournal.com


I'm glad you've asked this question, because I'm happily scooping through the replies myself :-)

We bought the Wonder Woman TV series and have done a little bit of pre-watching through it before Sparrow gets to the point where she can watch it with us. It's hysterical at times, but it definitely takes the whole 70's "women are doing it for themselves" thing as a basis. I've only rewatched bits of series 1 so far which is more likely to hit my "oh god stupid self-centred Americans" button than the "I can't believe the stupid attitude to women" button. Looking forward to series 2 and 3 which have more fights against aliens and bad corporations and the more current kinds of bad guys.

From: [identity profile] murasaki-1966.livejournal.com


Definately NOT Charlie's Angels. Any version. Early Avengers though, would be good. Diana Rigg is nobody's fool

From: [identity profile] murasaki-1966.livejournal.com


How could I forget one of my favourites? John Sayles The Secret of Roan Inish.

From: [identity profile] angriest.livejournal.com


The problem with the majority of obvious suggestions like Buffy is that it’s next to impossible to find one of those shows that doesn’t have a Henry Higgins character – a middle-aged male adviser telling the female protagonist what to do.

From: [identity profile] jack-ryder.livejournal.com


One thing if you can isolate them is the Barbara Gordon/Batgirl episodes of Batman: The Animated Series. Especially the Barbara Gordon episodes before she becomes Batgirl (I think they're the robot ones.)

And there's an obvious series that people seem to have missed -

Veronica Mars.

From: [identity profile] hibikiryouga.livejournal.com


The Girl From Tommorrow
Maid Marien and Her Merry Men
Aeon Flux (she is a strong character, but the rest of the subject matter may be something you might want to delay exposure to)
Kimagure Orange Road (of the two main female charcaters, one is beautifully strong, the other is one of the most vapid brainless bints I've ever seen depicted)

From: [identity profile] mynxii.livejournal.com


Movie: Julie and Julia

Series: Ugly Betty, Big Bang Theory

Less about women, more about racial diversity: The Lost Cities of Gold

Genre stuff in the media form is actually hard to find - most of the examples have at least one aspect that you need to handwave - like the 'older male advisor' type character.

From: [identity profile] ariaflame.livejournal.com


Not entirely genre but with links.

Press Gang has quite a few good female characters (though some bits have dated a bit - mostly technology stuff)

From: [identity profile] arcadiagt5.livejournal.com


Also not genre but I do have a soft spot for the Gilmore Girls, at least for the first 3 - 4 seasons.

From: [identity profile] smofbabe.livejournal.com


Emma Peel in THE AVENGERS? Capt Janeway in ST: VOYAGER? Sam Carter on STARGATE: SG-1?

Not genre but surprised that no one has mentioned VERONICA MARS, which I thought had a very believable strong young female character.

And there's always THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW :->

From: [identity profile] medge42.livejournal.com


Bones and Fringe
(two separate shows. A show called bones and fringe sounds slightly icky)

From: [identity profile] kaths.livejournal.com


Re Doctor Who, I really liked Liz Shaw, who was an intelligent woman and a scientist. I wish she'd stayed around longer!
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From: [identity profile] dortamur.livejournal.com


Not Genre (although there's Genre in-jokes & references), but Castle has several strong female characters.
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