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From a discussion I had last night, a very short, quick poll, aimed only at the people who prefer their men to have clean-shaven faces. No-one can view your answers, but comments will be open to all - no screening.
EDIT - if you want to be able to see the poll's stats (without the answerers being identified of course) anyone is welcome to answer the final question, and that will give them the opportunity.
[Poll #1068748]
EDIT - if you want to be able to see the poll's stats (without the answerers being identified of course) anyone is welcome to answer the final question, and that will give them the opportunity.
[Poll #1068748]
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I haven't done your poll... but here's my two cents.
I generally have a preference for clean shaven with hairy chests. But I've had partners with facial hair and I think it also depends on how they look. There are some people who I think look great with facial hair. There are also people who look horrible with a beard/facial hair (and fuck you all for encouraging that Onomis thing happen :P).
I find the bare pubic region desire very disturbing- almost pedophillic. Interestingly I feel somewhat similar about men with hairless chests (and I know guys who just can't grow hair there). I know it's like only wanting men who are clean shaven- expecting a removal of hair that is grown during sexual maturity. But given that women are also expected to only have hair on the top of their head (no hairy legs, arms, arm pits, faces, feet etc) it's pushing it from a preference thing to a "women have to look like plastic models."
And the Master may be beardless but John Simm is still *hot*.
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Re: I haven't done your poll... but here's my two cents.
I have yet to meet anyone who liked bare pubes on women for any other reason than to be able to perve on their genitals more easily. Oh, and some just don't like getting hair caught in their throat, but tough :)
I have no doubt that there are people who want it for paedophillic reasons, however I suspect they are in a tiny minority. But yes, having been shaven down below on more than one occasion, I felt like I was ten-years old. Though on the plus side, there was a noticable increase in sensation. But given how much I hate shaving my face, my pubes are staying!
I had almost no hair at all on my chest until I was 30. I now have some, but I have more on my stomach!
I like the really fine downy hair that some women get on their bodies. I think it looks lovely.
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Re: I haven't done your poll... but here's my two cents.
I *really* have to disagree- and cute boys in suits usually gets my attention.
But what about really dark hair on pale skin? Hair that if it was the same or similar tone to skin you wouldn't notice, but otherwise you get comments on how you should wax. Or really thick hair on legs and feet? Hair that grows back within a day of shaving and is thicker than the leg hair of many men that I know. What about thick brows and lip hair and other facial hair?
And when my boyfriend teases me because I haven't had a lipwax in awhile I think I have to right to say they look terrible with a goatee.
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Re: I haven't done your poll... but here's my two cents.
Indeed he was.
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Re: I haven't done your poll... but here's my two cents.
And because apparently me talking about girl bits makes Danny squirm, I'll just point out that the same thing can happen with a shaved pubic region, and that those situations where you can have two sandpapery regions rubbing against one another are particularly bad.
I don't find it particularly disturbing or pedophilic in general, but I'd feel very creepy telling anyone else what they should do with their pubic hair (suggesting is one thing, even requesting is a bit icky to me).
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Is it just pubic hair you feel creepy about telling people to do things with or is it telling people to do anything with their body/appearance at all?
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The idea of telling (not suggesting, but telling someone and expecting your opinions will override theirs) someone how they should have their hair or similar sets off my 'I am a controlling psycho' alarm, and the more intimate the creepier. Teasing partners about how awful they look, however, does not.
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Re: I haven't done your poll... but here's my two cents.
If I ever date you I'll remember to tease you for being hairy Dave rather than demanding you to not be hairy Dave ;)
Perhaps I'm super sensitive but I always feel bad when partner's make comments on how I look, even things like "I liked the way your hair looked yesterday" or "You should do that more often."
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Re: I haven't done your poll... but here's my two cents.
You are super-sensitive if you don't like even mild compliments!
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I mentioned to Danny before that for most of the polls where he screens comments I'd have no problem with my thoughts being seen to all- but this topic- hair- I'm self screening what I say because there are heaps of private issues I have with it.
So I'm super-sensitive and weird! (go me!)
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You are super-sensitive if you have issues with mild compliments.
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If you read it, the poll does not claim a gender for the person being asked to shave their pubes. And so few women need to shave their faces daily, I don't think it's necessary to make the allowance. So there!
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A more fair one in my case would be comparing shaving your pubes to shaving your head, because if you've never done it before and find the concept icky, it's a really big deal (perhaps not as much as shaving your head, but I couldn't think of a more even comparison). Whereas with guys, they've usually been clean shaven at some point and don't find the concept icky, just a matter of convenience.
The other thing is that you see and feel a beard much more often than you do a woman's pubes, so a better comparison would be asking a woman to shave under their arms in summer when they're wearing short sleeved tops all the time.
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Guys may not find the concept icky, but for many shaving every day is a chore that they feel they have to do, due to public perceptions of guys with beards as being untidy looking, unclean, or rough. It means scraping a blade over sensitive skin every day, unless you use an electric razor, which rarely do as a good a job as a blade.
Personally, I like being clean shaven, but to do it I either need two basic shaves a day, or one painful one. Many guys have sore faces, rashes, and all sorts of skin problems from shaving, and they just have to do it anyway.
I have worked in a couple of jobs where I was expected to shave every day, even though I didn't deal with the public, because they had standards. I went to school with a kid who at the age of 13 had a full beard, and was constantly pressured by the school to shave it.
I know a quite a few women that don't like the idea of shaving any part of their body, but still expect their partners to shave. The poll really just works as a hypothetical situation to get people thinking about their attitudes.
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As a compromise if it was a real problem I'd possibly cope with a closely cropped beard, and I don't mind goatees.
I do find it annoying when guys constantly fiddle with their facial hair!
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They both work. If the Doctor can radically change his appearance every time he regenerates, why can`t the Master. John Simm with a goatee would have looked silly. The guys before him (I don`t count the American from the movie. The Master is BRITISH goddammit!)didn`t look silly.
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My opinion on that goes for oral and anal sex, too.