penissizedebate.com
The other night I was online chatting with a close friend of mine, while she chatted with a male of her acquaintance. They had been discussing penis size, and she sent me a link to a site that they'd checked out a page of - penissizedebate.com. She knows my size intimately, knows of my curiousity for all things sexual, and thought I'd be interested in their penis size chart.
To cut to the chase, it says most women prefer bigger dicks. 'Ideal' length between 7.25 and 8.25 inches, girth between 6.25 and 6.5 inches. Okay, that's a new stat. Of course I'm well aware that stats can be made to say whatever you'd like. I take these things with a grain of salt, make a mental note of the figures and see how they stack up to other surveys, stats, etc. Anyway, I kept reading through the site and quickly realised something.
Penissizedebate.com is fucking evil.
Yes kiddies, I have a brand shiny new hate, and it burns like a magnesium flare. And as happens when something really gets to me, I'm going to go on and on about it. At best, it's a misguided attempt by a total frigging moron to help guys out by letting them know once and for all that yes, as much as your lady loves you, she probably wishes you packed more meat. At worst, it's a nasty attempt to further play on male insecurities in order to make money by selling advertising. It's funny for its ignorance, but not funny enough to make up for the fact that in all likelihood it's taking guys who already have self-esteem issues and putting them further through the grinder.
Many of the folks on my friends list are geeks, people with good intelligence and at least a vague idea about what passes for scientific study or debate. With that in mind, let's look at some of my favourite claims and comments. Many of these amuse me and make my skin crawl at the same time...
Big Penises Satisfy Women's Instinctive Need To Reproduce - My favourite reason for this is "Copulating with a big penis creates more chance for offspring". Wow, what size syringes do lesbian couples use when they are trying to get pregnant? Does that mean only the ones who use big squirters are successful?
Examples of Sex Experts' Free "Help" - Yep, he lays into sex experts for not telling it like it is. His "Comment to the Experts" on one of the follow-up pages is amazing, "A note to the psycho-therapist, sexologist, sex-therapist and other know-it-alls reading this: Can't you just make it clear to these guys who are troubled by the size of their penis, that women are human beings also, meaning that when they are sexually excited they want to be penetrated by a penis, preferably a rather large one...
Penis Size Talks: What Women Think About YOUR Penis - "Women tell each other everything -
* If your penis is talked about a lot, it means it is either small or big.
* If she never mentions your penis, it is because it is considered average; nothing interesting to chat about."
Oh my God! Women talk? To each other? About men? Don't you love the phrasing, the idea that if your girlie doesn't talk to her friends about your dick, you're nothing special. Couldn't be that she doesn't wish to, that she's shy, or her friends aren't the type that want that sort of detail...
Check out the chart for "Penis Length and Penis Girth, What Do Women Consider Small and What Is Big?" that tells you what they are really thinking. It's a corker! And fucking evil! Oh wait... there a page that is even more evil!
85 Penis Size "Facts" - I'll just give you the first one "If you are a woman and you don't prefer bigger than average penises, then you are... an exception."
Here are some other pages...
"Comparing Gorillas and Chimpanzees Proves that Women Prefer Big Penises... and Big Ejaculations!"
"Women Prefer Larger Penises Because They AreSluts Promiscuous"
"If There is Such a Thin as Too Small, Then Penis Size Matters"
"Why Women Lie About The Importance Of Penis Size"
"Sex experts are either ignorant or cowardly"
"Women Care About The Size Of The Flaccid Penis"
So yes, the site is exactly as foul as it seems. I find myself laughing at a lot of his facts and claims, then reality kicks in and I see how much damage he can do. Many of you would remember my penis post. If I had seen this site when I was in my teens, I would have been completely fucked up, once and for all.
I'm gunna be ranting about this one for years. It's right up there with the old "I hate fags" website for its ability to piss me off and offend me, while making me laugh at the stupidity of its attitude and "facts."
And people wonder why I want to kill of 90% of the human race with bird 'flu...
Breasts
My tastes when it comes to women are similar to my tastes when it comes to music. I like a fairly broad range, and even when I say there are things I don't like, there are also exceptions to those. So while I've never been big on bottoms, a nicely shaped backside can fully grab my attention, as can a great set of legs, a nice body, great hair, lovely eyes, etc.
I'm a breast man, have been for as long as I can remember. My choice runs towards smaller breasts, A and B Cups. This tends to confuse people because all bar one of my long term partners have had, to put not too fine a point on it, enormous jugs. It's funny how many people seem to get confused when they find out I like small boobs. They say things like, "But Sharon's got large ones," and I reply "Yes, she has."
Strangely, I don't pick my partners based on physical attributes, there must be something wrong with me. If I had only been more picky physically, no doubt my life would have been filled with slender, small-busted redheads with green eyes and perfect, rounded arses. Because physical attributes are all that matters in a relationship with someone. Grrr...
It's funny how many women who, when they find out that I like small breasts, go "Oh, you wouldn't like mine then."
Firstly, there's only one way to find that out, and that's put it to the test, so don't say it unless you're willing to test the theory *grin*.
Secondly, chances are if I like you it won't matter either way. I've had one partner who had what I consider a perfect chest. But do you honestly think that I hated my other friends/partners chests? If the person is right, perfect breasts or a perfect body are only a bonus.
Anyway...
What mainly attracts me to breasts is shape - If the breasts look nice I don't care about the size. So there are women who have large breasts that I think are perfect and beautiful. But more consistently, I find that smaller breasts will have a look and shape I find pleasing. I'm not going to bother to try to go into details on what it is about shape that I like, because it varies so much. Something that I find pleasing on one woman will do nothing for me on another. Go back to my post on Porn for links to a few women whose breasts I think are gorgeous.
I tend to be pretty good about not boob-watching. As much as I like a good perve, I don't wish to make someone uncomfortable by ogling them or talking to their chest. However, that only works when I'm alert and awake. When I'm tired, my eyes become breast magnets, glued to any nearby mammary that falls into my nice range. I really hate it when I'm like that, and have apologised and ended conversations with a few women in my time when I've realised that I've been doing it consistently. Most women have been quite understanding and have picked up that I'm not exactly happy or comfortable that my attention keeps drifting due to tiredness. The nicest response I've had was from lovely young lady who, after I apologised and said I may end the conversation, replied with "That's okay," and then opened her jacket and gave me a good look. Forgetting the perve value, I still smile at this because it actually made me feel comfortable and I could be reasonably sure that no, she wasn't worried. It actually meant a lot to me that she felt comfortable enough to do this. I gave her a very heartfelt thank you.
Anyone else wishing to show me their chests will be also thanked :)
Possibly my only regret boob-wise is that I don't have pictures to jog my memory with regards to many of the women I've seen over the years, and so I no longer remember what they looked like naked. My visual memory is cactus, which is kind of a shame as it means I'm losing elements of what I've experienced. But hey, I just have to ask any future partners or nudie-buds it they mind me getting a pic :)
There's the obvious things I like, like a hard nipple run across the palm of my hand as I caress a breast. Kissing, licking, sucking... nothing too unusual. Never really gotten into the whole titty-fucking thing, just don't get it. I do love the little downy hairs that some women have on their chests (and elsewhere, necks, etc.), I really enjoy the texture of the skin, and I've had occasion to find drops of semen on a breast actually looking quite lovely.
There was a fabulous book that belonged to an ex's mother - the book was titled simply "Breasts" - and it was page after page of black and white photos of women's chests. Ages from preteen to octogenarian, all sizes and shapes imaginable, a spread of races and even a few women with scars and/or who had had mastectomies. The facing pages each had the person's story and why they had posed.
It was a lovely book, should really see if I can't find a copy of it for myself one day.
The other night I was online chatting with a close friend of mine, while she chatted with a male of her acquaintance. They had been discussing penis size, and she sent me a link to a site that they'd checked out a page of - penissizedebate.com. She knows my size intimately, knows of my curiousity for all things sexual, and thought I'd be interested in their penis size chart.
To cut to the chase, it says most women prefer bigger dicks. 'Ideal' length between 7.25 and 8.25 inches, girth between 6.25 and 6.5 inches. Okay, that's a new stat. Of course I'm well aware that stats can be made to say whatever you'd like. I take these things with a grain of salt, make a mental note of the figures and see how they stack up to other surveys, stats, etc. Anyway, I kept reading through the site and quickly realised something.

Penissizedebate.com is fucking evil.
Yes kiddies, I have a brand shiny new hate, and it burns like a magnesium flare. And as happens when something really gets to me, I'm going to go on and on about it. At best, it's a misguided attempt by a total frigging moron to help guys out by letting them know once and for all that yes, as much as your lady loves you, she probably wishes you packed more meat. At worst, it's a nasty attempt to further play on male insecurities in order to make money by selling advertising. It's funny for its ignorance, but not funny enough to make up for the fact that in all likelihood it's taking guys who already have self-esteem issues and putting them further through the grinder.
Many of the folks on my friends list are geeks, people with good intelligence and at least a vague idea about what passes for scientific study or debate. With that in mind, let's look at some of my favourite claims and comments. Many of these amuse me and make my skin crawl at the same time...
Big Penises Satisfy Women's Instinctive Need To Reproduce - My favourite reason for this is "Copulating with a big penis creates more chance for offspring". Wow, what size syringes do lesbian couples use when they are trying to get pregnant? Does that mean only the ones who use big squirters are successful?
Examples of Sex Experts' Free "Help" - Yep, he lays into sex experts for not telling it like it is. His "Comment to the Experts" on one of the follow-up pages is amazing, "A note to the psycho-therapist, sexologist, sex-therapist and other know-it-alls reading this: Can't you just make it clear to these guys who are troubled by the size of their penis, that women are human beings also, meaning that when they are sexually excited they want to be penetrated by a penis, preferably a rather large one...
Penis Size Talks: What Women Think About YOUR Penis - "Women tell each other everything -
* If your penis is talked about a lot, it means it is either small or big.
* If she never mentions your penis, it is because it is considered average; nothing interesting to chat about."
Oh my God! Women talk? To each other? About men? Don't you love the phrasing, the idea that if your girlie doesn't talk to her friends about your dick, you're nothing special. Couldn't be that she doesn't wish to, that she's shy, or her friends aren't the type that want that sort of detail...
Check out the chart for "Penis Length and Penis Girth, What Do Women Consider Small and What Is Big?" that tells you what they are really thinking. It's a corker! And fucking evil! Oh wait... there a page that is even more evil!
85 Penis Size "Facts" - I'll just give you the first one "If you are a woman and you don't prefer bigger than average penises, then you are... an exception."
Here are some other pages...
"Comparing Gorillas and Chimpanzees Proves that Women Prefer Big Penises... and Big Ejaculations!"
"Women Prefer Larger Penises Because They Are
"If There is Such a Thin as Too Small, Then Penis Size Matters"
"Why Women Lie About The Importance Of Penis Size"
"Sex experts are either ignorant or cowardly"
"Women Care About The Size Of The Flaccid Penis"
So yes, the site is exactly as foul as it seems. I find myself laughing at a lot of his facts and claims, then reality kicks in and I see how much damage he can do. Many of you would remember my penis post. If I had seen this site when I was in my teens, I would have been completely fucked up, once and for all.
I'm gunna be ranting about this one for years. It's right up there with the old "I hate fags" website for its ability to piss me off and offend me, while making me laugh at the stupidity of its attitude and "facts."
And people wonder why I want to kill of 90% of the human race with bird 'flu...
Breasts
My tastes when it comes to women are similar to my tastes when it comes to music. I like a fairly broad range, and even when I say there are things I don't like, there are also exceptions to those. So while I've never been big on bottoms, a nicely shaped backside can fully grab my attention, as can a great set of legs, a nice body, great hair, lovely eyes, etc.
I'm a breast man, have been for as long as I can remember. My choice runs towards smaller breasts, A and B Cups. This tends to confuse people because all bar one of my long term partners have had, to put not too fine a point on it, enormous jugs. It's funny how many people seem to get confused when they find out I like small boobs. They say things like, "But Sharon's got large ones," and I reply "Yes, she has."
Strangely, I don't pick my partners based on physical attributes, there must be something wrong with me. If I had only been more picky physically, no doubt my life would have been filled with slender, small-busted redheads with green eyes and perfect, rounded arses. Because physical attributes are all that matters in a relationship with someone. Grrr...
It's funny how many women who, when they find out that I like small breasts, go "Oh, you wouldn't like mine then."
Firstly, there's only one way to find that out, and that's put it to the test, so don't say it unless you're willing to test the theory *grin*.
Secondly, chances are if I like you it won't matter either way. I've had one partner who had what I consider a perfect chest. But do you honestly think that I hated my other friends/partners chests? If the person is right, perfect breasts or a perfect body are only a bonus.
Anyway...
What mainly attracts me to breasts is shape - If the breasts look nice I don't care about the size. So there are women who have large breasts that I think are perfect and beautiful. But more consistently, I find that smaller breasts will have a look and shape I find pleasing. I'm not going to bother to try to go into details on what it is about shape that I like, because it varies so much. Something that I find pleasing on one woman will do nothing for me on another. Go back to my post on Porn for links to a few women whose breasts I think are gorgeous.
I tend to be pretty good about not boob-watching. As much as I like a good perve, I don't wish to make someone uncomfortable by ogling them or talking to their chest. However, that only works when I'm alert and awake. When I'm tired, my eyes become breast magnets, glued to any nearby mammary that falls into my nice range. I really hate it when I'm like that, and have apologised and ended conversations with a few women in my time when I've realised that I've been doing it consistently. Most women have been quite understanding and have picked up that I'm not exactly happy or comfortable that my attention keeps drifting due to tiredness. The nicest response I've had was from lovely young lady who, after I apologised and said I may end the conversation, replied with "That's okay," and then opened her jacket and gave me a good look. Forgetting the perve value, I still smile at this because it actually made me feel comfortable and I could be reasonably sure that no, she wasn't worried. It actually meant a lot to me that she felt comfortable enough to do this. I gave her a very heartfelt thank you.
Anyone else wishing to show me their chests will be also thanked :)
Possibly my only regret boob-wise is that I don't have pictures to jog my memory with regards to many of the women I've seen over the years, and so I no longer remember what they looked like naked. My visual memory is cactus, which is kind of a shame as it means I'm losing elements of what I've experienced. But hey, I just have to ask any future partners or nudie-buds it they mind me getting a pic :)
There's the obvious things I like, like a hard nipple run across the palm of my hand as I caress a breast. Kissing, licking, sucking... nothing too unusual. Never really gotten into the whole titty-fucking thing, just don't get it. I do love the little downy hairs that some women have on their chests (and elsewhere, necks, etc.), I really enjoy the texture of the skin, and I've had occasion to find drops of semen on a breast actually looking quite lovely.
There was a fabulous book that belonged to an ex's mother - the book was titled simply "Breasts" - and it was page after page of black and white photos of women's chests. Ages from preteen to octogenarian, all sizes and shapes imaginable, a spread of races and even a few women with scars and/or who had had mastectomies. The facing pages each had the person's story and why they had posed.
It was a lovely book, should really see if I can't find a copy of it for myself one day.
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Stupid, stupid rat creatures!
*snerks at the sheer stupidity of that statement*
Except for all the lesbians; who when they are sexually excited (and at any other time) do not want to be penetrated by a penis of any size...
...oh, and all of the women who prefer non-penetrative sex.
...oh, and all of the women who care more about the personality of the person they are sleeping with than the dimensions of that person's genitals.
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But then again, women's vaginas vary in size too, so what suits one woman wouldn't suit another.
I've been with one guy who was fairly well endowed, which was rather nice (although we had to take things slowly to begin with each time), but it is so far down on the list of important things, it doesn't even register...
And as for the size of a flaccid penis - wow, who gives a shit! Might as well care about the size of their big toe.
Oh, and boobs are good :)
Mine are IMO *perfect* at the moment, nice perky full size B, one slightly larger than the other (who wants to be text-book?). Unfortunately when the rest of me is the size I prefer (12 instead of 14), they shrink down to smaller than what I prefer :(
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Most women have one breast bigger than the other. I've only seen them through clothing, of course, but I quite like yours.
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Sorry, did you say anything else? :) All I see is that line.
Discussion like this always reminds me of Wired World of Sports.
"...with a badly swollen foot. Though I saw him in the dressing room earlier and it didn't look like a foot to me, it looked closer to eight or nine inches."
Having been with you at the Spencer Tunik photo shoot, I can definitely agree that your breasts are very nice. :)
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These are the sorts of sites I want hackers to target.
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Give me average to small any day , past guys I've been out with have either been two wide too long or both *sigh* .
Plus girls the guy with smallest penis rather than the guy with the largest , the guy with the smallest at least can get it up and has to try a bit harder but the guy with largest can't get it all the way up .
There is also the thing that still holds true , its not the size that matters its how you use it ;)
I had a look on Amazon and there is a book that has Black and white and colour pics of breasts : The Big Book of Breasts by Dian Hanson and there is the one that I think you were talking about Breasts by Dominique Ayal .
Even though I am quite shy , I would actual show you my breasts(don't tell Ken I let you though) , you just can't touch them.
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But seriously, you are a sweetheart, and that was a brave thing to say on here. I'd happily take you up on the offer, but wouldn't for fear of upsetting Ken. For the record, I think you have cute looking breasts :)
Thanks for looking about, reckon the one by Ayal is it. Now I just have to save up to buy it! Well, that and the 50,000 other things I want *grin*
LJ did *not* want me to reply to this. So many busted tries!
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Even after changing in front of female soccer players I still get shy , although changing in a moving car usually doesn't phase me but changing in front of another woman does , yeah I'm weird.
Ken wouldn't be upset if you saw the girls , I'm just very ticklish as you know which is why I wouldn't want you to touch them , that's ok and thanks for the compliment on the girls .
Maybe Father christmas may surprise you early ;)
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Actually, I must be rather shallow because it came as quite a surprise to me to realize at one point that my most serious relationships have been with men to whom I was not particularly physically attracted. (My ethnic background pre-inclines me to men with dark hair, beards, and glasses, and I like light-colored eyes as well...) Much to my surprise, physical attraction comes with, for lack of a better word, spiritual attraction. All I can figure is that as you become closer to a person emotionally, your desire grows to be as close to them as possible physically as well.
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And, let's be honest, redheads make up 4% of the population, and of the ones I liked, loved or fancied, none of them were interested in me. Well, one was, but only as shag buddies for all sorts of reasons. Not that I'm complaining! She was great! *grin*
My ethnic background pre-inclines me to men with dark hair, beards, and glasses, and I like light-colored eyes as well... So what you're saying is, at the moment I hot!
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So what you're saying is, at the moment I hot!
Oh, did I forget to mention tall? :-> In any case, attractive as you are, sweetie, it's immaterial because at the moment, I monogamous.
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So long as I'm still allowed to be HOT!
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I have a similar problem (especially with women who wear slogan T-shirts, because I've loved reading for even longer than I've loved breasts). It's one of the reasons I'm glad some genius invented sunglasses.
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Why do I find that a wonderfully versatile statement?:>
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Thank You!
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Ditto. I hate it too.
Possibly my only regret boob-wise is that I don't have pictures to jog my memory
I'll get the ball rolling:
Okay, who's next? :D
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*For 'knew' read 'hoped'
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hang on, what's it's hand doing down there?
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I feel so dirty now. :(
That damned dirty stinking ape!
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Holy shit, you had me worried that I'd posted the wrong picture.
Phew!
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I would have thought, it would be the size of the erect penis that should be cared about, especially since the flaccid size doesn't always accurately represent the size when erect.
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Diiiiiiiiiiiiiick tricks. :(
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Actually I can think of at least 3 tricks you can do with an erect penis.
Whether anyone would want to is another matter entirely.
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No wait, I don't think we have any ice cubes. Or a long enough rubber band.
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*boggle*
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And I also try hard not to stare, and I also fail when tired, especially on the last day of conventions. I know I am not alone, but it has been mildly embarrassing on occasion.
I would also add I have been to Burning Man, and had occasion to see literally THOUSANDS on one go, parading past, in all shapes and sizes. I've found I never actually stop being enthusiastic about them, no matter how many I see.
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One day I'll get to Burning Man. I always knew it was something I'd enjoy, and your stories only inspire me more. I think my favourite is still the wire-door guys :)